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Projekte (Projects) => Entwicklung: Wiki (Development of our Wiki) => Thema gestartet von: Harald Løvbrekke am 2020-11-30 21:27:58
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Hi
I am now working with some of the Zora species and have looked at Wiki and wonder if two species are not confused.
The photo below stands as Z. silvestris I think it looks more like Z. spinimana, see tibial apophysis
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.This one stands under Z. spinimana, could it be Z. silvestris?
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The first one should be Z. spinimana, thanks.
I don't know about the last one. The retrolaterial view and this belong together. This one seems to fit Z. spinimana. Maybe just a bad angle?
(http://wiki.arages.de/images/f/f7/Zora-spinimana_No-Risnesoyna_09-10_02-Ped-stereo.jpg)
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And what do you think about this "Zora armillata (https://wiki.arages.de/index.php?title=Zora_armillata#/media/Datei:Zora_armillata_BG2018-05-09_Kloster_St_Spas_Laubwald_Laubstreu-female.jpg)" (with the according epigyne on the species page)? To me, the broad carapace bands and the lowly emerging copulatory ducts (https://wiki.arages.de/index.php?title=Zora_armillata#/media/Datei:Zora_armillata_BG_Kloster_St_Spas_Laubwald-Laubstreu-Epigyne.jpg) say Zora nemoralis?
And isn't this a typical Zora parallela with the striped (https://wiki.arages.de/index.php?title=Zora_pardalis#/media/Datei:Zora_pardalis_BG_Wiesen_bei_Tserovo_male.jpg) legs and abdomen and the thin, broken retinaculum (https://wiki.arages.de/index.php?title=Zora_pardalis#/media/Datei:Zora_pardalis_BG_Wiesen_bei_Tserovo_male-left-palp.jpg)?
Simeon
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Tobia Bauer
I think the last one is right. Z. spinimana should have these powerful hairs at the tip of the palp and I think I can see these
Harald
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In the Wiki there is also a photo of the ventral side of the same male from Norway, and one can see the hair patches on coxa IV, which I guess confirm that this is Z. spinimana, even if the lateral view of the palp is confusing,
I always found Zora very difficult to distinguish, but I think that Simeon is also correct with his concerns regarding the Z. nemoralis and Z. pardalis photos. For the latter, it was originally uploaded as Z. parallela, and I don’t quite understand why this was later changed.
Best wishes,
Rainer
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Simeon must have written his message while I wrote mine/looked in the wiki.
Should I change the nemoralis/pardalis-pictures?
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It looks justified to me. But perhaps Martin wants to comment first? It also may affect the Bulgaria excursion species lists.
Best wishes,
Rainer